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Post by Valhalla Erikson on Apr 24, 2024 13:57:44 GMT -6
What are your views regarding smut in a story? Especially the kind of story that isn't meant to be explicit. There are some crowds that feel like smut takes them out of the story, especially if its fantasy related but others are ok with it as it adds to the realism.
Me, I don't write it in my stories because I cant write it. But I personally feel like anything can be a tool as long as it's not abused excessively.
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Post by saintofm on Apr 28, 2024 12:02:05 GMT -6
Depends on the story and the wording. Maybe its the relative age when I read them, but I thoroughly enjoyed the steamy romance scenes in Wolf's Hour (WW2 spy thriller where the spy is also a werewolf), but the word choices used in the romance scenes in Dinosaur Knights just took me out of it. There was at least one short that was free on Amazon, I think it was called in the Arms of the Dark Elf, where I felt the pacing that led up to the love scene was out of nowhere so took me out. Or if I can't see why anyone would be interested in them it can take me out.
It just needs to be handled right. Much like violence, if done at the wrong quantity or intensity you can loose your audience. Again, comparing it to your favorite food: Every now and then food of the gods. All the time, meh. TO get that same feeling you skip quality for quantity or try to have a tier list (using French-fries as an example, McDonalds and your high school is probably at the bottom, followed by In-N-Out unless its Animal Fries, followed by Wendy's as they went down in quality, Burger King is actually pretty tasty, like the seasoned fries at AW and the Wedges at KFC better, most dinners are better, Red Robbin has bottomless fries as a selling point for a reason, a good Fish and Chips place lives and dies on the quality of their fried food, and so on and so on until you get to Buckingham Palace).
Done well, you have something that makes you warm in fuzzy in all the right places. Done wrong, you have the Bloodwryne movie scene that left viewers tilting their heads in confusion
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Post by Valhalla Erikson on Apr 29, 2024 17:46:45 GMT -6
Depends on the story and the wording. Maybe its the relative age when I read them, but I thoroughly enjoyed the steamy romance scenes in Wolf's Hour (WW2 spy thriller where the spy is also a werewolf), but the word choices used in the romance scenes in Dinosaur Knights just took me out of it. There was at least one short that was free on Amazon, I think it was called in the Arms of the Dark Elf, where I felt the pacing that led up to the love scene was out of nowhere so took me out. Or if I can't see why anyone would be interested in them it can take me out. It just needs to be handled right. Much like violence, if done at the wrong quantity or intensity you can loose your audience. Again, comparing it to your favorite food: Every now and then food of the gods. All the time, meh. TO get that same feeling you skip quality for quantity or try to have a tier list (using French-fries as an example, McDonalds and your high school is probably at the bottom, followed by In-N-Out unless its Animal Fries, followed by Wendy's as they went down in quality, Burger King is actually pretty tasty, like the seasoned fries at AW and the Wedges at KFC better, most dinners are better, Red Robbin has bottomless fries as a selling point for a reason, a good Fish and Chips place lives and dies on the quality of their fried food, and so on and so on until you get to Buckingham Palace). Done well, you have something that makes you warm in fuzzy in all the right places. Done wrong, you have the Bloodwryne movie scene that left viewers tilting their heads in confusion Or worse. Make you feel like you're reading 50 Shades of Grey. I've read my share of romance novels and 50 Shades was the opposite of romantic.
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Post by saintofm on Apr 30, 2024 4:41:38 GMT -6
Depends on the story and the wording. Maybe its the relative age when I read them, but I thoroughly enjoyed the steamy romance scenes in Wolf's Hour (WW2 spy thriller where the spy is also a werewolf), but the word choices used in the romance scenes in Dinosaur Knights just took me out of it. There was at least one short that was free on Amazon, I think it was called in the Arms of the Dark Elf, where I felt the pacing that led up to the love scene was out of nowhere so took me out. Or if I can't see why anyone would be interested in them it can take me out. It just needs to be handled right. Much like violence, if done at the wrong quantity or intensity you can loose your audience. Again, comparing it to your favorite food: Every now and then food of the gods. All the time, meh. TO get that same feeling you skip quality for quantity or try to have a tier list (using French-fries as an example, McDonalds and your high school is probably at the bottom, followed by In-N-Out unless its Animal Fries, followed by Wendy's as they went down in quality, Burger King is actually pretty tasty, like the seasoned fries at AW and the Wedges at KFC better, most dinners are better, Red Robbin has bottomless fries as a selling point for a reason, a good Fish and Chips place lives and dies on the quality of their fried food, and so on and so on until you get to Buckingham Palace). Done well, you have something that makes you warm in fuzzy in all the right places. Done wrong, you have the BloodRrayne movie scene that left viewers tilting their heads in confusion Or worse. Make you feel like you're reading 50 Shades of Grey. I've read my share of romance novels and 50 Shades was the opposite of romantic. Yeah, you know you have done something wrong when S&M community, the very group that should be happy their kink becoming mainstream, is denouncing it for encouraging abusive relationships. What little I know of it I know Consent and After Care is sacrosanct, and the lack of either in the book is probably why there was a influx of people needing medical attention for 50 Shades inspired accidents.
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Post by Valhalla Erikson on May 5, 2024 11:41:02 GMT -6
In relation to this topic say you just so happen to come across some Rule 34 art or erotic fiction relating to your characters? How would you feel about that? Would you support a fan making porn relating to your characters?
Honestly sometimes I can be like an overprotective dad regarding my characters. Especially towards characters that I like. But the unfortunate fact is that this is an inevitable scenario. As long as someone doesn't make money from it or becomes a complete creep then I wouldn't take issue with it.
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Post by saintofm on May 6, 2024 0:34:48 GMT -6
I would have my preferences, but I would more than likely take the Bayonetta approach and hope and ask the fan artists and fan writers to keep the character's characteristics in mine (in this case, supposedly the creator of Bayonetta wanted etchii fan artsiest to not make her demure as that just defeats the purpose of the character).
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Post by Alatariel on May 6, 2024 17:04:59 GMT -6
What are your views regarding smut in a story? Especially the kind of story that isn't meant to be explicit. There are some crowds that feel like smut takes them out of the story, especially if its fantasy related but others are ok with it as it adds to the realism. Me, I don't write it in my stories because I cant write it. But I personally feel like anything can be a tool as long as it's not abused excessively. Okay so.... I was raised very religious and part of my personal deconstruction process has been reading smutty romance. Seriously. I think within the genre of romance, it's expected and more than acceptable! But fantasy....science fiction....I prefer a romance subplot but not smut. I do love fantasy romance or science fiction romance which is a mix of the two and can include spicy scenes. Though I do like books that subvert genre expectations so I won't be mad about a little spice in any book I read as long as it's not detracting from the plot.
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